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Apparently this needs to be said.
When people write about being a former Christian or a deconvert, it generally means that they went to church frequently, paid attention to sermons and Sunday School, and believed in what they were taught. We were people who helped out with potluck dinners, mission trips, church fellowship, church music, and damn near anything else that needed doing within a congregation. Some of us were even former clergy or lay clergy, with a few that even went so far as to actually study The Bible professionally.
In other words, we were once the people sitting next to you in the pews on Sunday. We sang along, even when the hymn wasn’t totally appropriate for the particular part of the church year. When your family got sick, we brought by food and sat with you all night worrying about your loved ones. When you lost a loved one to whatever unfortunate circumstances befell them, we carried them to their final resting place. No thanks was needed or accepted, because that’s what decent human beings do.
Now that we’re no longer there, the only thing that has changed is our views of supernatural beings. Some of us might have become atheists, others might just avoid the subject entirely. A few go to a different religion. It doesn’t matter where we land after walking out the door, because it was our choice to make and our path to walk.
Being a former Christian, apostate, deconvert, or whatever term you prefer doesn’t negate that part of our lives that we spent genuflecting and contemplating the divine. We didn’t forget what happened to us in church; we certainly didn’t forget what was drilled into our heads. Leaving the faith doesn’t magically change the fact that we can anonymously go into any church and say the right things to get people praising our godliness or our authentic Christian values.
You know, if we were the lying pieces of trash that we’re frequently accused of being.
When you talk about how real Christians believed this or that, you’re forgetting that we were once there when you picked up that nice little phrase. We didn’t forget it at all. We can’t really, because we get reminded of it all the damn time. Sometimes, it would be nice to forget some of the things we’re reminded of.
What all this boils down to is the notion that someone can hear the same sermons, go to the same congregation meetings, and take the same proverbial fruit from the same proverbial vine and end up saying, “No thanks.” It is entirely possible, and it actually happens a lot more often than you care to admit. But since we left Christianity instead of hopping to a different denomination, we have to get told about how wrong we were. There’s no difference between a Catholic becoming an agnostic or a Southern Baptist becoming a Methodist or a Lutheran becoming an atheist; all it means is that there’s a change in some beliefs.
Therefore, unless you treat people that leave your particular church/congregation/belief niche the same way as you treat people who leave the faith entirely, you are barking up the wrong tree. Treating us like we are forgetful, stupid, misleading, or just plain awful isn’t appropriate just because we’ve rejected the same Sunday hobby group as you have. Unless you are prepared to treat everyone equally, all you’re going to accomplish is reminding everyone why they left.
Above all else, please stop selectively enforcing your scrutiny towards former Christians. Some of us don’t want to go back. We’re not notches for your spiritual bedpost. We’re not lost, misguided, or misinformed. We’re not inferior beings who need explanations for what we experience in life. Instead, do something silly, and treat us like human beings. When that happens, there will be less crap like this written about you.
Thank you, and may the compassion of Puppykins go with you.
Well said ! What Christians fail to realize is that their Church is not only a place of worship, but it is their Social Club as well. And like most social clubs, they tend to become very exclusive. Once you no longer behave like the rest of the club or question things about the club , you are no longer part of them.
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I agree with you. Christians, which I am one, need to not destroy people for not believeing in God. No matter whether I believe God rules all and that athiests are wrong, I should not shove that down peoples’s throat.
I try my hardest not to. I have a muslim friend, a few lgbt friends, and a couple athiest friends! I hope people understand that it is a person’s choice, not something dictated by how Christians view the world. Good luck in your life adventures!
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That was awesome. The assumption that if you begin to doubt, you must not be ‘getting it’. The idea that actually learning about religion makes it all seem nonsensical, so stop ‘studying’ it and just open your heart. Don’t think so much. We will tell you what to think.
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You’re right. It needed to be said.
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BRAVO!!! You summed it up perfectly.
Especially liked this: We’re not notches for your spiritual bedpost. We’re not lost, misguided, or misinformed. As I’ve said many, many times … I’ve been there, done that, and have no desire to go back.
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Aww, shucks, Nan.
The desire to not go back is something else I’ve been contemplating lately. I see some people who leave the faith still searching for the “real Jesus” long after they lose faith in supernatural deities. I’m concerned that people in that situation will get taken advantage of.
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Very well said!
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It’s explained very simply: we terrify them. That is why they lash out.
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I don’t know if it’s just terror or if it’s also tribalism. I mean, conceptually someone becoming an atheist isn’t different than a Baptist becoming a Presbyterian. There are differences in belief that are big enough to wreck their concept of salvation, but other denominations get a pass.
Some of it is, I think, because they perceive atheists as an easy target that’s fully outside their group. They can’t sling that kind of mud at a fellow Christian without getting rebuked. Do it at a non-believer, and they get rewarded for it.
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Too true, and if you want to hear a shocking story about the destructive nature of this tribalism, read this.
https://bloodlessmurder.wordpress.com/2013/09/02/younglife-pushed-my-son-to-suicide/
But, my learned friend, don’t forget, we have jettisoned that thing that they cling to for meaning… that tool (denial) they use to cope with existential death anxiety. At the end of the day, these are just frightened individuals.
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John, unfortunately there are too many stories like the one you linked to. And so many Christians will tell you this is isolated and has nothing to do with mainstream Christianity. They are dead wrong.
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Dead wrong, indeed.
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Well said SB!
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Thx for the direct and emphatic support
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Two thumbs up. Their motives are quite transparent to us whether they are aware of them or not.
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“Oh, my gods, shut the fuck up already! I was a missionary, for chrissake! Don’t you think I know the gospel backward and forward? Telling me over and over is like giving Einstein a 12-week course on basic algebra; it’s annoying, ignorant, and pointless.”
That’s my internal voice.
I’m too nice.
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