If you haven’t yet, check out check out the latest post over at Godless in Dixie. It got me thinking about how I’ve shied away from writing about leaving religion, atheism, and figuring out how to live without believing in invisible tyrants. I felt frustrated when readers would skip over everything I wrote and leave some pretty awful comments.
I also felt like I wasn’t helping.
For people who leave the faith like me, it’s more important to find out how to replace what I’ve lost with something healthier and more reliable. Just talking about atheism wasn’t doing it for me, and my posts felt like I was talking more about what I was against than what I actually for. I’ve said this elsewhere, but my personal goal is to get to a point where when I hear people profess undying love for their imaginary friends, I don’t immediately get disappointed and fear for their personal well-being.
There are also times when I can’t keep it together myself. How am I supposed to write about my struggles when I can’t manage them perfectly? What qualifies me to even put these words together and publish them to the Internet?
The answer is hidden in the word “perfectly,” which itself is an artifact of my decaying faith. In Christianity, perfection is the ultimate unattainable goal. You’re supposed to strive to it while knowing you’ll never reach it. Failing in perfection is a personal tragedy. If we were in a church, here is where the pastor would insert a shameless plug for how Jesus will still help out, despite how awful and smelly everyone is.
I realized my focus is not just limited to religious views.
My interests do not stop at criticizing religion and Christianity in particular. It’s about surrounding myself with a healthier community than what I could find in a church. That requires figuring out more than just how well I can create an anti-Christianity meme. Even though they’re pretty funny.
The thing is, churches have great surface support networks for people to casually connect with. They’re great for situations that begin and end with a shared hobby of singing at inanimate objects or talking to yourself like it can change reality. But when people really need support and encouragement, churches can break down. Some might be good at helping out some people, but then they’ll turn around and ostracize others for no other reason than “living in sin.”
Living a secular life is inherently different, but the need for community is the same. An important question for people who leave religion is: how do I replace what I’ve lost? Deconverts might have had good church support before they left, which conveniently gets dropped whenever they stopped loving Jesus.
All of this occurs within the reality that atheism isn’t Christianity.
I use the words “atheism” and “secular” sometimes interchangeably, when they really aren’t. They’re similar, but they aren’t exactly the same. Atheism is still too strong of a word for many people. Certainly it’s too strong for some religious folks.*
The difference is important when you realize atheism isn’t a group, code, religion, or other sect. There aren’t any secret handshakes (or are there – insert evil laugh), contracts, or creeds to recite. Atheists have a bunch of different views, and nobody’s required to share anything except a general sense of not believing in supernatural deities.
Secularism just denotes an entity that isn’t religious in nature. You can have a secular group filled with religious people, or a secular group filled with agnostics. Technically speaking, many hobbies and niche cultures are secular because they’re not based on religion. I can have a video game hobby and not have to profess my love for Yahweh or His Wife.
I want to write more about it, but it’s difficult.
My main goal right now is to recognize that just because I’m an atheist, my life isn’t about shaking my fist angrily at religious billboards and church signs. That’s a thing that some religious folks like to malign atheists with (i.e., “you wrote something bad about my super friend, so YOU MUST BE MAD AT HIM”). I have to recognize I can’t do anything about those people. They choose to be ignorant of others in spite of facts.
Still, it’s a work in progress years into my deconversion. I want people who leave religion to know that there is support out there for them, and that they can find it without going to a church. Right now it’s mostly online, but with more people leaving religion, that’s going to change.
When people leave religion, I want more secular doors to open.
*True story. I do cryptograms of famous quotes at some random free site, and it lets people log in and comment on the quote they just solved. Normally it’s just a couple comments agreeing with whatever was said. However, when I got to a quote from Edison about no evidence for gods, the thing was filled with people trying to argue with him. Seriously, who argues with dead people?
It is unfortunate that churches supply community when the technology of the day is isolating us more each day. My hope is that the positive benefits of technology, e.g. how we are communicating now, will outweigh the others and people will begin to realize that our need to form communities is stunted by the existence of churches rather than fulfilled. DeTocqueville commented on the amazing Americans who created myriad societies and belonged to them actively. Few of these were religious in nature, but many had a religious overlay to avoid, I believe, criticism from the church crowd.
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I think supplying community was a consequence of conversion, as having people around to reinforce the message would encourage coming back. But technology is winning out; we just have to adapt to it. Things were very interesting just a few decades after printing presses were used in Europe. It shouldn’t be different now.
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SB, when you wrote:
I think that is so true of most of us. However in many areas the most dynamic arguments and mind bending debate is the religious / atheist field. I would feel bad for anyone who focuses all their energy only on religion as that really is not healthy, as we know. We all have other interests and that makes us well rounded people. Yet in all the other things I am involved in, nothing is as animated and debated as hard as religion, except maybe the topic of gun control. But in both issues it is partly because people are not listening to the other side and are running on emotion rather than reason.
Also you write about the support system of the deconvert compared to the church person in a congregation. SB I was never really a religious person and left the religious aspects of life behind as soon as I could safely take care of myself, so I do not know what systems are in place between the two groups. However many people have never been religious at all, yet have systems in life that support and maintain them. I am trying to see if there is simply a mechanism in place for secular people already that you could transition into. I am not expressing this coherently except to say I am not religious and I do not feel like an outsider, which is what I feel you are saying you feel like. Maybe I am wrong about what you are expressing, if so disregard everything I wrote. I wish you the very best. Hugs
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You’re right that in some ways I feel like an outsider, or at least a curiosity. Part of that is because I don’t always identify what’s a religious holdover, and whether it’s healthy to keep or discard. In a sense, losing the obviously religious beliefs is easier than losing the more obscure ones.
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That’s funny. Hey friend can you pop over to my new site and give me a new follow? I lost my entire site and have to start again. Love to have you back. Been a stressful few days. I like your writing about leaving the church. I think it helps remind us we made the right choice, and you’re good at it.
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Hey Jim, If you want to write a blurb about your loss of site and your loss of subscribers, I can put it on my blog for you. Hugs
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Thanks Scottie. I had a fatal error in transferring my files. My zip came back empty. In the spirit of brevity, i hope you all come back. I fell into a very good group and hate to lose any one of you. Hit the follow button again. Thanks everybody. Don’t share with Branyan though! lol.
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Here’s the link
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https://jimoeba.wordpress.com/2018/02/25/moral-argument-the-answer-in-a-nutshell/
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Can you fix my booboo Scottie?? Thanks friend
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Yes I can provide the link, that is easy. I thought you would want to write a blurb about what your blog was. I could write it, but it won’t be the same. I know your followers will want to find you, but I want more people to find you. Hugs
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All I had on the header was “One minute info blogs about breaking the faith trap. Thanks buddy. Then throw in your usual endorsement that I pat you for!! Lol can you throw something together? I’m frazzling
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Scottie you are above and beyond cool. Thank you so much. You all mean a lot to me.
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Thank you. Here is what I posted. https://scottiestoybox.com/2018/02/25/jim-has-a-new-blog/ I can make any adjustments if you wish. Hugs
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I just now noticed your posts disappeared from my reader. I’ll hop over there soon. What happened?
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It’s a long story, but the short is I exported and tried a new page and my zip came back empty. We’re thinking it will be recovered within the week. I’m not too worried about the 119 posts but it was you all in this fantastic group. I fell into a super group and losing you all would be horrible. The best interactive and smartest in WP. Thanks buddy. Hope you are well.
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Love that last question! And if you notice, Christians do it all the time. I mean…are any of the original bible-writers still around?
Good post!
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It was a good anecdote, I think. I’d been through so many quotes, and the one anti-religion one gets plastered by people who feel they have to defend the faith from a guy who can’t talk anymore.
The only way you can feel threatened by a corpse is if you think it’s a zombie. But to be fair, the faith is based on people coming back from the dead…
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Travel, spend some time in Europe, Australia, NZ, Japan, and experience societies in which you will not hear the word “God” mentioned.
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